Essay in Chinese

Submitted by kjbroome on Fri, 08/21/2020 - 01:55
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Hello,

I tried to use the Essay function in Chinese language. But obiously it is not working with Chinese characters?!

Does anybody have a solution or experience?

Greetings from Shanghai

KJ

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BV52

Fri, 08/21/2020 - 18:30

Hi KJ,

I just tested this and it works with Chinese (simplified). Although I am not 100% sure that I am doing it correctly since I do not know Chinese I just used Google Translate for this. You can check my test content here.

-BV

kjbroome

Sat, 08/22/2020 - 15:07

Thank you BV. I must check everything more in detail. Actually my colleague and me testet the same and we did have the same problem. But your example is working. I try to find out what it was.

Thank you for your fast feedback

kjbroome

Sat, 08/22/2020 - 15:09

Hi BV

I just tested your example and it is working well. I dont know what is the difference and try to find out now.

Thank you for your fast feedback

KJ

kjbroome

Sun, 08/23/2020 - 10:24

Hi BV,

we just tried again. The problem is, when you use just the keyword it is working. When you use is within a sentence it is not working. When you use *...* it is working sometimes. I think here the developer team has to dig deeper...

greetings

KJ

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BV52

Mon, 08/24/2020 - 02:27

Hi KJ,

Can you please attach a sample content that is having a problem so that we can check.

-BV

kjbroome

Tue, 08/25/2020 - 05:01

Hello BV

we did not several try´s and could not find the logic behind our problem. Sometimes it is working sometimes not. We keep on trying. I attached our H5P file. Maybe you find the problem.

greetings

KJ

H5P file: 
Binary Data key-words-74.h5p
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BV52

Wed, 08/26/2020 - 22:26

Hi KJ,

Here's what I discovered so far. Firstly in checking your content you don't need the asterisk (*) before and after the keywords. These are used as wildcards which means that if say you create a key word like p*t, essay would accept any word starting with p and ending with t for example pat, pet, pit, pot, put are all correct answers.

So to make sure that this was not the one causing the issue I removed all the asterisk but the issue persists. As I mentioned before I don't really know Chinese but from what I know it does not use spaces in between characters. So what I did was I tried using the keywords and formed some sort of a sentence and the content marked it as incorrect because Essay is detecting this as a single word. Then I tried separating the keywords with spaces and sure enough I received a perfect score. I've already reached out to the developer of Essay and we were thinking of using some sort of a wildcard but it may cause a lot of false positives because of the number of possible Chinese characters than can be used. He may be able to provide some other suggestions so stay tuned :-)

-BV

 

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otacke

Wed, 08/26/2020 - 23:48

Hi all!

The thing with Essay currently is that it needs spaces to determine the start end the end of a keyword or keyphrase. Otherwise, if your keyword was "apple", Essay would report to have found "apple" if someone wrote "pineapple" for instance - a false positive.

Although I am far from being an expert on Chinese, I am pretty sure that the same problem would be true for Chinese texts if space symbols were ignored when looking for keywords or keyphrases. I am open to suggestions though.

Best,
Oliver

kjbroome

Thu, 08/27/2020 - 02:13

Hi All!

I am not a Chinese either and do not know much about the language. But one thing is clear. In Chinese is no space between characters. My colleagues are Chinese and if you need some help for testing or demo content please let me know.

KJ