Resource page with external links and PDF - any suggestions?

Submitted by arnotts27 on Thu, 06/09/2022 - 11:34
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I just joined the community, so not sure if this question has been asked previously.

I like to create a resource document that contains links to external websites as well as embed PDFs. I am thinking of using the interactive book which seems straightforward. But any recommendation on a suitable H5P?

And how can I embed a PDF in the H5P? And how do I embed the external link so that it opens up within the same frame of the H5P content?

Any suggestion is much appreciated.

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villon

Thu, 06/09/2022 - 17:22

Hello arnotts27,

wie du sagst, bist du neu hier. Also erst mal herzlich willkommen. Wie du weiter schreibst, bist du dir nicht sicher, ob diese Frage nicht schon behandelt wurde. In einem solchen Fall wäre es doch angeraten, das Forumsarchiv zu nutzen.

Nun zu deinen Problemen bzw. Fragen:

Nein, pdf-Dokumente lassen sich nicht direkt einbinden.

Dies wäre nur über den IFrame-embedder möglich, der dann aber die Dokumente in einem separaten Fenster öffnet.

Fast ebensolches gilt für externe Webseiten. Diese lassen sich ebenfall über den Iframe-embedder einbinden. Den iframe-embedder findest du auch im interactive-book.

Liebe Grüße

villon

Hello arnotts27,

as you say, you are new here. So first of all, welcome. As you write, you are not sure whether this question has already been dealt with. In such a case, it would be advisable to use the forum archive.

Now to your problems and questions:

No, pdf documents cannot be integrated directly.

This would only be possible via the IFrame-embedder, which then opens the documents in a separate window.

Almost the same applies to external websites. These can also be integrated via the iframe-embedder. You can also find the iframe-embedder in the interactive-book.

Kind regards

villon

 

 

arnotts27

Fri, 06/10/2022 - 07:27

Hi Villon, 

Thanks for your suggestion. I was about to try out the iFrame embedder as you suggested, but I can't find it on the h5p.org site..  I used to see it as a standalone content but never try it. Or has it been renamed?

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BV52

Fri, 06/10/2022 - 18:20

Hi arnotts27,

To provide a best possible experience for new users and to ensure that people use H5P.org only for trying out H5P (we've had more traffic than our server can handle lately, ref also the warnings when you create content, embed content and view the content) there are limited content types that are available.

 

Check the getting started page for information on how you can use all the content types and use H5P for real. We unfortunately are not able to provide free hosting, only free software :) Hopefully you'll consider supporting the H5P Core Team by using H5P.com.

-BV

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villon

Fri, 06/10/2022 - 18:43

Hi BV52,

da hättest du ihm/ihr doch gleich den Link zu dem Iframe-embedder geben können

Grüße villon

Hi BV52,

you could have given him/her the link to the iframe-embedder right away.

Greetings villon

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villon

Fri, 06/10/2022 - 18:45

Hi BV52,

da hättest du ihm/ihr doch gleich den Link zu dem Iframe-embedder geben können.

https://h5p.org/iframe-embedder

Grüße villon

Hi BV52,

you could have given him/her the link to the iframe-embedder right away.
https://h5p.org/iframe-embedder
Greetings villon

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BV52

Fri, 06/10/2022 - 18:57

Hi Villon,

Thank you for the link. However Iframe Embedder is not available to be created in H5P.org, I thought that it would be wiser to advise test the content using a self hosted site.

-BV

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villon

Fri, 06/10/2022 - 20:20

Hallo BV52 nochmal,

klar mag es weiser sein, aber man weiß doch niemals wo hin sich Menschen bewegen werden und was sie tun werden.

Was war eigentlich nochmal das Problem mit dem Iframe-embedder? Fehlender support? Urheberrechtsprobleme? In html war iframe natürlich schon sehr früh verpönt, da sich hier die Quellen nicht wirklich leicht verifizieren ließen, und man bei einer Suche dann auf einer isolierten iframe-Seite landete, aber als Notlösung, na ja.

Hauptknackpunkt scheint ja wohl zu sein, dass H5P die Einbindung von externen Formaten noch nicht so gut drauf hat.

Jede Menge Arbeit und Geld nötig halt.

Liebe Grüße

villon

Hello BV52 again,

Of course it may be wiser, but you never know where people will move and what they will do.

What was the problem with the iframe-embedder again? Lack of support? Copyright problems? In html, of course, iframe was frowned upon very early on, because it wasn't really easy to verify the sources here, and a search would then land you on an isolated iframe page, but as a stopgap, well.

The main sticking point seems to be that H5P is not yet very good at integrating external formats.

A lot of work and money is needed.

Kind regards

villon

 

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otacke

Fri, 06/10/2022 - 21:17

Hi!

The problem with embedding is not of legal nature - that's another layer on top - but a technical one. It's simply not possible to control the page that's embedded, you cannot enforce a height or react to changing elements, etc., so the user experience will usually be lousy. That has nothing to do with H5P not "being good at integrating external formats", that's a general limitation of what browsers allow to prevent cross-site scripting and similar attacks.

Best,
Oliver

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villon

Sat, 06/11/2022 - 14:01

Hello Oliver,

With "The main sticking point seems to be that H5P is not yet very good at integrating external formats." was meant, that is difficult to integrate foreign file formats just like PDF, DOCX etc.

H5P is great as a tool and I am always trying to get people to use it, especially my colleagues and also students.

greetings villon

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otacke

Sun, 06/12/2022 - 12:37

Hi villon!

Sorry, you mentioning the iframe embedder (which related to embedding) didn't lead me to think you were talking about displaying different file formats. It should not be too complicated to write viewers that could display a PDF or Word document within an H5P content type, but I hope nobody will ever write one of those - otherwise, we might never get rid "PDF-Schleudern", not even starting to discuss accessibility issues.

Best,
Oliver

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villon

Mon, 06/13/2022 - 16:50

Hello Oliver,
You're right. Those were aspects I hadn't considered. I was only thinking about accessibility for the creators and not for the end users.
I vow to do better.
Regards
Villon