Embed Essay in Column/Question set

sbarab's picture

Is there anyway to add it such that Essay types apper in Column?  

It would then allow us to have multiple open-ended questions in one H5P content type and show them all in the scroll. We would be VERY, VERY grateful. 

thank you.

 

Sasha

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otacke's picture

Hi Sasha!

Look what ticket we created just yesterday ... You can track the progress there.

Best,
oliver

sbarab's picture

So, does this mean we might see essay added to column soon? thanks much.

otacke's picture

That's a yes!

sbarab's picture

not to be pushy, but do you know what that day might be?

thanks much for taking the time to respond.

otacke's picture

I cannot pinpoint it, but "within the next four weeks" might be at least as good as the weather forecast.

sbarab's picture

Any hope on Essay coming to Column soon? thanks.

otacke's picture

As soon as priorities allow someone to review and approve my updated code for Essay ...

Great!

Kiosa Coup's picture

Would that hold true for the Question Set too? Will we be able to add the Essay type to a Question Set by July?

What does "Implement the Question type contract" mean?

otacke's picture

Yes, it's the same for Question Set. But I cannot give you any exact dates.

JavaScript does not have an interface concept like e.g. Java. Instead, you can hand out some rules what you should implement in your code (a contract). If you comply to these rules, then your code should work smoothly with the other code. It's like a "soft" interface.

H5P as a framework so far has only one contract. It's a contract for Question type contents. If your code offers all the functionality that's described there, it will be fit to be used in compound content types such as Column or Question Set which can then rely on a function that returns the score, a function that resets the content type, etc.

sbarab's picture

Did this ever happen?  Really looking forward to using this one.

otacke's picture

Hi sbarab!

It's about to happen still, and you can track progress in our ticket management system. As you will notice, the major blocker is that the pending update of H5P.Essay has not been code reviewed yet. You can track progress for that as well.

Cheers,
Oliver

sbarab's picture

thank you for the update, we are really keen on getting essay in column and question set. I did notice that when i looked at the essay it says it is now "ready for question set" ... is there anyway to get that part live? thanks in advance.

otacke's picture

Hi sbarab!

Essay is ready, but it has not yet been released. Of course, you can grab the current code of H5P.Column and H5P.Essay to build your own temporary fork.

Cheers,
Oliver

sbarab's picture

We have yet to create alternative forks and like you my engineers have a list of tasks with code switching being a cost we can't do at the moment. So, i will continue to remain hopeful that you all will update essay and bring into question set and column soon. 

Question: If we did fork it does that mean it would be ready for just question set or question set and column? And i am assuming forking and integrating into question set and column is a big lift or? 

thanks again, and anything you can do to get them to just embed essay would be so much appreciated. 

otacke's picture

Hi sbarab!

The code of H5P Essay implements the complete question type contract, so it's suitable for H5P.Column and H5P.QuestionSet. Making it available in the latter is just a matter of seconds, because you'll only have to update the library selector inside semantics.json to use the correct version of H5P.Essay.

Please note though, that in case something has to be changed in the code of one of the libraries that you're forking, you'd have to put your system into development mode briefly, because otherwise H5P will not allow to update local libraries that have the same version number as the one that is about to be installed.

Best,
Oliver

Kiosa Coup's picture

Super quick reply, thank you.

otacke's picture

You're welcome!

Any news on the release date?

otacke's picture

Hi vargaszabolcs!

Sorry, no. You may have already spotted the development ticket for this request that you can use to track progress. It is linked to a missing code review of the updated version of H5P Essay, which has not been done yet due to other priorities. You can track its progress as well.

Best,
Oliver

sbarab's picture

Oliver, any new news on essay being integrated into these two types? Question set would be first need, and then essay. It looked so close in March but then seems to have stalled. Thanks, and hope your conference is going great.

Does essay content type still not generate xAPI statements for correct answers? If it gets integrated into Question Set, would it then? Thank you!

otacke's picture

Hi Ian!

Essay sent out xAPI statements right from the start. This has nothing to do with integration with other content types or with a host system's gradebook. The latter will be possible too, but there's still a code review to be done. You can track the progress in our ticket system.

Best,
Oliver

otacke's picture

Hi sbarab!

The status is still similar, but the review is scheduled for the next coding sprint, so it should be done really soon. Fingers crossed. 

Best,

Oliver

sbarab's picture

Oliver, just checking in to see if you think this might be out before the end of the year?    Thanks as always for your feedback.

otacke's picture

Hi sbarab!

Unfortunately, I don't think so.

Best,

Oliver

otacke's picture

Hi sbarab!

The status is still similar, but the review is scheduled for the next coding sprint, so it should be done really soon. Fingers crossed. 

Best,

Oliver

Hi,

Just began working with Moodle and H5P for a non-profit and this feature (in particular essay in column) is exactly what I need to get one of my first projects up and running. Is there any new info on when we can expect to see this released?

Thanks for the great work!

Mark

Any idea when essay in column will be up and running?

BV52's picture

Hi Mark,

Same status as what Oliver mentioned above. There are still some coding that needs to finished and some issues to be ironed out. After those steps a code review and a series of testing are needed before the new feature is released.

-BV52

otacke's picture

Hi BV!

To the best of my knowledge, it's only the code review that's missing.

Best,

Oliver

BV52's picture

Hi Oliver,

I think you are right. Thanks!

-BV52

sbarab's picture

Not to burst your bubble, but it has been at this point with the idea that we are almost there for a year and am not sure if there is any new movement. WIth that said, if it happens we would be quite excited as well.

sbarab's picture

But we were also told that it was almost ready a year ago and there has beeen no meaningful movement. I think they are hoping and i would be stoked if that happens ... but i am not holding my breadth. 

otacke's picture

What can I say? There's nothing I could do.

You can, of course, always use the source code to use the update right away. https://github.com/otacke/h5p-essay

sbarab's picture

Thank you for your quick response always. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful for all the H5P work. I was simply communicating that "almost ready" is the state of this for over a year ... still grateful for whatever gets done. ty.

sbarab's picture

Any updates around integrating essay or open-ended question in question set and/or column? thanks for the update.

BV52's picture

Hi sbarab,

I wish I have better news but I'm sorry same status as what Otacke has mentioned.

-BV52

This would be an extremely useful addition to the column content type, has there been any further movement on this?

BV52's picture

Hi jgalvez,

Sorry no updates yet.

-BV52