Saving of progress in interactive book

Submitted by ralfontherunNLGS on Fri, 08/14/2020 - 10:44
Forums: 
Content creation

Hi all,

My interactive book contains quite some content (text and quizzes), therefore many users can't finish the book in one go. When they do continue at a later point, it seems however that all progress is gone. My question: Is there a way to make sure the progress is saved/cached, so users can continue later on without having to start from scratch?

Many thanks,

Ralf

Content types: 
interactive book
BV52's picture

BV52

Fri, 08/14/2020 - 18:58

Hi Ralf,

Interactive Book currently does not support a resume feature. However it is part of the roadmap for this content type.

-BV

mjwareha

Wed, 09/02/2020 - 11:13

Hello - I have the same challenge. The book looks absolutly right for my needs, especially the progress summary. I know you guys don't have a commited roadmap, but is there any idea when the saving progress / resume feature likely to be added? Is it on a list of things that might get done or is it waiting for someone to pick it up? Many thanks for your help, and continue the great work, I've created over 100 pieces of h5p content now and students love it!

BV52's picture

BV52

Wed, 09/02/2020 - 19:09

Hi mjwareha,

It is part of the list to be done for this content type however if I'm not mistaken the core team will start working on it once it comes out of Beta.

-BV

Sill POntes's picture

Sill POntes

Fri, 09/04/2020 - 13:36

Sabe me informar quando poderemos retornar ao ponto que o aluno parou a atividade? 

Estou trabalhando bastante com o COLUMN , mas este também não tem a funcionalidade de voltar de onde parou e limitar as tentativas. É isso? ou já existe essa possibilidade?

Abraços

BV52's picture

BV52

Mon, 09/07/2020 - 18:13

Hi Sill,

If it is only Column this should be possible if you enable "save content state" in the H5P settings. Please note that this feature is only available in the plugins for Wordpress, Moodle or Drupal. In regards to limitting the attempts that feature is not available yet.

-BV

Sill POntes's picture

Sill POntes

Fri, 09/18/2020 - 03:43

how do I save the status of the content in the column?

BV52's picture

BV52

Fri, 09/18/2020 - 19:03

Hi Sill,

Enabling the "save content state" should automatically save the contents for users.

-BV

Sill POntes's picture

Sill POntes

Wed, 09/30/2020 - 22:42

Hi,

I didn't find this save option and it doesn't automatically save. Follow the content for you to see.

H5P file: 
Binary Data teste-os-seu-conhecimentos-modulo-1-conhecer-antecedentes-o-uso-das-tecnologias-na-educacao-166 (2).h5p
BV52's picture

BV52

Thu, 10/01/2020 - 18:25

Hi SIll,

Which platform are you using? Moodle, Drupal 7/8 or Wordpress?

-BV

maja_aerial

Mon, 11/09/2020 - 18:21

Hey, I have the  same problem. Had a virtual book but I need a save-function, so I created a column after reading this in the forum. But I can´t find a setting for saving the users progress there either...

H5P file: 
Binary Data head-organs-at-risk-tolerance-doses-54.h5p

maja_aerial

Mon, 11/09/2020 - 18:22

ah and I´m using wordpress btw

BV52's picture

BV52

Tue, 11/10/2020 - 18:02

Hi maja_aerial,

You can enable the "save content state" feature by going to Settings -> H5P

-BV

maja_aerial

Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:09

I found the setting, thank you! Is it possible to save the virtual book too now, or is it just for the column?

bez.lashkari

Wed, 11/11/2020 - 02:53

Hello,

Am wondering when the "save content state" will become available for the Interactive book?

Thanks

 
BV52's picture

BV52

Wed, 11/11/2020 - 17:52

Hi Everyone,

As far as I know the core team has not started developing this, the OER HUB has yet to be released and there are still some other projects in line.

-BV

avohns75

Mon, 01/11/2021 - 19:21

Just following up on this: This would be a very viable feature and should be given a high priority. It is in fact the single most requested features from my students this semester. I have been using interactive books to sub-structure my lessons and to break them down into smaller activities, but all that structuring and breaking down is a bit pointless if the students have to finish the whole book in one sitting to get their grades properly recognized by moodle.

Best regards,
Andreas

 

BV52's picture

BV52

Thu, 01/14/2021 - 18:02

Hi Andreas,

There are no specific timeline on when this will be released but there are plans to get this out this year.

-BV

Deanne

Mon, 01/18/2021 - 03:55

The interactive book feature is incredibly cool, but my students are incredibly frustrated that their progress is not saved after they log out. Their work  also does not appear in the gradebook. I created a student account and tested it out over and over. Before logging out, the Summary page shows the student his/her progress with the correct/incorrect answers. Even if the student presses "Submit and Report" on the Summary page, the progress and correct answers are not saved once s/he logs out. So, as a teacher for the class, I have no grades or progress for each of the students. Another frustration is that when they log back into the class, it does not show them where they left off. I have worked with all of the "Behaviors" settings - but nothing makes it work. PLEASE help or create a fix!

BV52's picture

BV52

Mon, 01/18/2021 - 18:05

Hi Deanne,

The "save content state" is coming eventually I just do not have a timeline. For the other issue I suggest that you post a separate thread for this in the bugs forum and provide as much information as possible.

-BV

PeterD's picture

PeterD

Thu, 03/04/2021 - 03:48

Deanna said: "The interactive book feature is incredibly cool, but my students are incredibly frustrated that their progress is not saved after they log out"

I am find the same; the students are really frustrated by this. To the point that they don't bother doing the activities, as there is little point: You cannot come back and see answers etc.

Kind of silly for a "learning tool", that students don't bother engaging with it as it doesn't help them learn...

Jiří Hyška

Wed, 02/03/2021 - 09:10

Hi, is there progress in dealing with not saving a procedure in an interactive book? We have a lot of material in the interactive book, but an unsaved procedure is a problem for us. Thank you for answer.

BV52's picture

BV52

Wed, 02/03/2021 - 17:41

Hi Jiří,

I'm sorry no updates yet. You can also check the Release Overview page, once this feature is released it will be posted there.

-BV

mjwareha

Mon, 02/15/2021 - 17:35

Hello all - I too have been waiting for some movement on this as the Book layout and features would be perfect for my needs. I have been in discussions with Oliver Tacke and potentially have a solution, however, it needs to be funded.

If there are enough of us together, getting this issue addresses wouldn't cost too much, it depends on how many would be willing to contribute. If you are interested in helping this become a reality. If we can get 15 - 20 people into a crowdfund then it would be somewhere between 100 - 200 euros each to get it over the line (all estimates at the moment). 

First things first, if I can get enough interest then I am happy to pull it all together. Absolutely no commitment at this stage, just let me know if you would be interested.

Marcus

bez.lashkari

Thu, 05/06/2021 - 03:54

Hi Marcus, did you ever get this off the ground?

mjwareha

Thu, 05/06/2021 - 17:17

Hi Bez, I found a solution but got no traction on community funding. Seems people just like free stuff! It also required the core H5P team to release it, they were responsive in communicating with me, but couldn't put anything better than doing it 'this summer' (and a cost for the work too).

otacke's picture

otacke

Thu, 05/06/2021 - 18:13

Hi all!

I think people simply don't visit this forum to be part of a community, to discuss pros and cons of H5P compared to other solutions, to share content they created, to collaboratively imagine new content types or features, to help others with solving problems - but simply to get the answers they need themselves. Not putting blame on anyone, just uttering my observations.

Guess I'll contribute this feature for free once more when I find some time.

Best,
Oliver

otacke's picture

otacke

Sat, 05/22/2021 - 18:02

Dear H5P "community",

again someone else took the initiative and created a solution for your problem for free: Here's the code required to add that feature to Interactive Book. I don't know, however, when the H5P core team will find the resources to review this pull request.

Cheers,
Oliver

mjwareha

Sat, 05/22/2021 - 18:29

Huge thank you for doing this! I have sent a mail to the H5P team to ask when they are likely to get a chance to look at it. I get the feeling the OER hub is consuming more time than they expected which does seem to be coming at the expense of pushing the rest of the programme forward.

I assume there's no way of circumventing the need for the core team to be involved in the short term?

Once again thanks, you are going to make many users happy!

otacke's picture

otacke

Mon, 05/24/2021 - 10:49

Hi!

You can apply the patch yourself locally, of course. But the H5P core team maintains the official code of Interactive Book, so they will have to merge the new code into their code base and release an update to get the feature into the official Interactive Book content type.

Best,
Oliver

p. s.: Not before summer: https://h5p.org/comment/41788#comment-41788

BV52's picture

BV52

Mon, 05/24/2021 - 18:35

Thanks Oliver!

I created a task for its review: https://h5ptechnology.atlassian.net/browse/HFP-3259

-BV

mjwareha

Sun, 11/14/2021 - 20:42

Hey Oliver, I had thought that your very kindly created fix might have been merged in already, but it appears not. I got execited when interactive book had an update available the other week, but it wasn't this! I've had a look at how to apply the patch locally but not done anything like that before. Is there a step-by-step gulde on how to do this? I've been googling by can't find anything at my level - truely basic!

otacke's picture

otacke

Mon, 11/15/2021 - 00:54

Hi!

Sorry, I don't think there's a truely basic step-by-step guide to patch H5P content. You might want to familiarize yourself with git in order to merge in the changes to the latest version of the master branch (https://ohmygit.org/ might help) and there's a post by Peter Baumgartner that may help you understand how building H5P content libraries works (https://peter.baumgartner.name/2021/04/12/h5p-library-installation/)

Best,

Oliver 

mjwareha

Mon, 11/15/2021 - 16:07

Hello!

Thanks for this. I've read through and I've certainly learned alot! However, this is all way above my pay grade! I thought I had managed to crack it at one point, but on testing there was no change in behaviour of the Interactive Book, it still wasn't saving (I'm sure it was nothing to do with your code, just my lack of understanding of how to merge properly).

I think I will have to leave it for the official release, I could just be creating more problems that I'm solving! 

As I couldn't get it working, just to confirm, the expected behaviour is that a user can come back to the content later and it should remember what questions they've answered and where they were in the book?

Really appriciate your help on this.

Marcus

BV52's picture

BV52

Mon, 11/15/2021 - 17:48

Hi Marcus,

You are correct the PR is aimed to save the answers of logged in users.

PS. I'll follow up with the developers 

-BV

mjwareha

Mon, 11/15/2021 - 23:01

Hi BV - Thanks for confirming that. Appreciate the gesture to follow up with the developers too.

I noticed another issue with Interactive Book - It's using an out of date library for Hotspots. I was trying to copy over some hotspot content to a book, and it won't allow me as the Book is using 1.8, but the current Hotspot libraries are 1.9.

Is there a way to change what libraries Interactive Book is using? I've got about 50 pieces of content I'm trying to migrate!

Thanks,

Marcus

BV52's picture

BV52

Tue, 11/16/2021 - 18:45

Hi Marcus,

You are correct and there is an existing report for this. I'll follow up with the developers as well.

-BV

ormjr

Sat, 02/27/2021 - 01:01

Like many in this thread, in our institution, we've created very large Interactive Books (IB) with tons of content and links. In fact, IB are the basis of an entire course for our faculty.  Yet, the Interactive Book activity type, STILL deos not have an actual Save Progress function, when by its nature, the IB is a type that lends itself for use in presenting material that needs multiple sessions by a learner to be able get through the vast amount information that the IB can present.  I cannot recount how many complaints from learners using the IB, trying to get through the content, only to encounter the "lost my progress!" issue.

I realize that the Joubal/H5P team is limited in size and has other priorities (e.g., the Hub), but this is not just a QoL feature request.  It SHOULD have been included from the outset of the IB's creation, because the IB is tailor-made for large quantities of information and a Save function is sorely, almost fatally, lacking . Therefore, count me as enthusiastically, wholeheartedly in support of adding this feature to the IB as soon as possible.

Sam Morgan

Mon, 12/13/2021 - 11:54

Agreed, why wasn't this part of Interactive Book functionality from Alpha?!?

bez.lashkari

Thu, 05/06/2021 - 03:54

Hi, has there been any developments with this in terms of identifying an ETA on this feature?

Sam Morgan

Mon, 01/24/2022 - 13:30

2022 and still nothing. This should be a priority for this content type. I see interactive book updates but not the one that we really need.

otacke's picture

otacke

Mon, 01/24/2022 - 15:41

Hi Sam!

Am I correct to assume that you are complaining about development being too slow for some open source software that you get for free and that you could contribute to in order to speed up things, i.e. either by donating the code directly or by organizing (crowd-)funding of its development?

Cheers,
Oliver

p. s.: done in my free time for free: (1) and (2) and merged into the official code base three weeks ago.

Mariam87

Sun, 02/13/2022 - 15:54

First, thank you for your time and effort in creating the code to solve the issue.

I have a question, because I am a newbie in H5p.

I am using h5p in Moodle and the latest version of the Interactive Book, still I am not able to save the program. I saw your response in another post that the problem could be in Moodle itself? I am not sure where I should move from here? Do I need to edit h5p file codes on Moodle with your code? or there is soemthing I am missing?

Thanks again.

BV52's picture

BV52

Mon, 02/14/2022 - 17:58

Hi Mariam87,

The save feature for Interactive Book has not been released. Afaik the update is going on another round of testing after the changes that were made by Oliver.

-BV

otacke's picture

otacke

Mon, 02/14/2022 - 18:03

Hi!

Also, please note that moodle's own H5P integration (the one with the content bank and the blue H5P symbol) doesn't support the "resume feature" of H5P, only the H5P plugin for moodle that was created by the H5P core team (the one with the black H5P symbol) does. So, if you're using moodle's integration, you'll need to bug the moodle HQ to add support for resuming H5P content, too.

Best,
Oliver

zenplay

Mon, 03/28/2022 - 06:33

Hi All !

I have heard that Oliver contributed to this feature in Interactive Book. Thanks !

Any idea when the H5P core team will realease an update ?

Thank you all for the work.

zenplay

Mon, 03/28/2022 - 06:45

Hi All !

I have heard that Oliver contributed to this feature in Interactive Book. Thanks !

Any idea when the H5P core team will release an update ?

Thank you all for the work.

BV52's picture

BV52

Mon, 03/28/2022 - 18:35

Hi zenplay,

I'm afraid we do not have a timeline when this will be released. You can check the Release Overview for the recent updates.

-BV

AnetaG

Fri, 12/02/2022 - 16:42

Hi there,

the isers of my interactive book can't save their progress Could you help me why is that? and how to do it so that the could come back later and finish their work?

Aneta

otacke's picture

otacke

Fri, 12/02/2022 - 23:11

Hi!

You (or your admin) will need to activate the "save content state" option in the H5P plugin's settings.

Best,
Oliver