Panopto intergration

Hello,

I was recently informed of the H5P-Panopto integration. I tested it and it works well! :)

My followup question is, when will this intergration work with the H5P Moodle plugin? Is it going to be in the next version of mod_hvp? If yes, when does it come out?

Thanks a lot.

Uriya

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

Panopto should also work with the plugins including the one for Moodle.

-BV

Thanks BV. Will check the latest version.

Hi BV,

Panopto does works great with the Moodle plugin, but it seems there's a problem with subtitles.

First, subtitles uploaded to the H5P player do not appear over panopto videos - it seems the subtitles button itself isn't there.

As an alternative solution we tried to uplad the subtitles directly to the video in the panopto cloud. Now the subtitles button does appear, but we get some strange bugs:

  1. Although the subtitles are turned on by default, they do not appear over the video until you turn them off and then on again (critical).
  2. The subtitles location over the video is too close to the center of the screen and they collide with the video content (see "small screen" attachment). The subtitles should be at the bottom of the screen as highlighted (major).
  3. When going to full screen the subtitles do not change size or place - they stay the same as they were in a smaller screen (see "full screen" attachment). The subtitles should be larger in full screen, and of course located at the very bottom (major).

I will state that we prefer to upload subtitles directly to H5P and not to the panopto cloud. However, If the problem can be solved better / faster by addressing the aformentioned bugs, it could work too.

Please advise. Are these issues known? Are there any plans to address them, and if so, when?

Many thanks,

Uriya

 
BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

Subtitles cannot be added directly into the content if the video is hosted somewhere else in this case Panopto. I need to get back to you this since the integration with Panopto is still in the Alpha phase, I will consult with the core team and I may have answer before the weekend.

-BV

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

A bit of correction from my previous reply (I reread it and it is a bit confusing). When videos are hosted in Panopto the subtitles needs to be uploaded in Panopto uploading it in the Interactive Video will not work. In regards to the issues that you reported the core team is looking into this and has also informed Panopto regarding the issue.

-BV

Hi BV,

Thanks for coming back with the info.

We already know that uploading the subs to the Interactive Video will not work - the question is: why? Is it something H5P decided to do, or was it Panopto? Can you / them make it work in theory? Who should we talk to?

We prefer it over uploading to Panopto, as H5P is already the place for all of our information layers that go over the videos (links, text, interactions, subtitles).

About the issues, #1 was solved this week and #2 & #3 are also being looked at.

Thank you.

Best,

Uriya

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

If I'm not mistaken it was more along the lines of since they already provide such feature there is no need to create a separate feature within the content. A separate code is needed for subtitles to work with videos that are hosted somewhere else.

-BV

Hi BV,

Uploading the subtitles along with the video to Panopto does make sense when you are creating new content, but our situation is different. I'll explain. Our organization recently migrated ~4000 videos to Panopto from another 3rd party host that we've been working with for years. That host only stored the videos themselves, so historically, the subtitles feature of H5P was our solution. Now that we've migrated, we found that all of those subtitles don't work anymore, and we're looking for a way to fix that without having to migrate all the subtitles too. As I mentioned, we prefer to upload subtitles directly to H5P, as it is already the place for all of our information layers that go over the videos (links, text, interactions etc).

Would you be able to check about that separate code to support subtitles for videos hosted at Panopto? What does it take to make that happen?

Thanks for all the extra help.

Uriya

 

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

Thank you for the additional information. I will inform the core team regarding this and if they ever decide to add this feature it will not come this year or early next year. The core is has a full schedule until the first quarter of next year.

-BV

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This is a major issue for several academic institutes in Israel, and we would love to see it fixed.

Looking at the video player for panaopto code:

https://github.com/h5p/h5p-video/blob/6f4d603029307c5bd6dd749c5e0eb8e773...

It seems we have some caption support, and it seems like it just needs a little debugging to make it work.

Hi BV,

Like Nadav mentioned, it seems there is some caption support in the code, and it only requires a few hours of debugging, according to one of our developers. He also sent us this link which shows a recent change made to the code. Does this change fix the issue? If yes, when (if at all) it is planned for release?

Uriya

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

Honestly I'm not sure what that change is for but if it is intended to resolve the issue it should be scheduled for the next release, when I do not have any timelines I'm sorry.

-BV

Hi BV,

Sorry for nudging but this manner is of stategic importance to us, and a major issue for several academic institutes in Israel, like Nadav said.

Is there anyone at H5P that you can verify with regarding this code fix? We just want to get an answer whether it solves the issue of H5P captions not showing up on Panopto videos, and if so, an estimate for when is it scheduled for release.

Many thanks and appreciation for your efforts.

Uriya

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

I've reached out to the H5P core team and we should get an answer within the week.

-BV

Hi BV,
Do you have an update for us?

Uriya

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

Sorry no updates yet. The H5P core team tried to finish some other projects in their schedule before the holidays started. I'll follow up once they are back in the office.

-BV

I'm also interested to learn when or if H5P.com will support H5P captions on Panopto videos.

Do you have any updates?

I'm also interested to learn when or if H5P.com will support H5P captions on Panopto videos.

Do you have any updates?

BV52's picture

Hi colmflynn,

Sorry no updates yet.

-BV

Thanks BV

I'd love to know when these become available. As Uriya noted above, the H5P players can show existing Panopto captions, but currently it's a poor user experience. 

Cheers,

Colm

BV52's picture

Hi Colm,

You can check this page for information on the most recent updates to H5P. Please note that upon release it takes about 1-2 weeks before H5P.com gets updated, this is to help make sure that there no major issues that came about from the update.

-BV

Hi BV52, 

My organization is dependent on the Pannopto <> H5P captions fix that Uriya asked about, and It's becoming critical issue for us (we've decided to hold Panoppto's implementation until this issue will be fixed).

Is there any way to check with the core team, when will it be possible to check & release this fix? 

* After reading the correspondance, I understend that it's still not prioritiesed, but I wonder (and asking) if it's possible to get estimation regarding this fix release date?

Thanks!
Idan

Hi BV,

My organization is very intersted in the captions Fix that uriya has asked about (due to this issue we've stopped Panopto's implementaion proccess).

From this thread I understend that it's not prioretised, but Is it possible to get any estimation from the core teams regarding the release date of this fix?

Best & thanks,
Idan

Hi BV,

My organization is very intersted in the captions Fix that uriya has asked about (due to this issue we've stopped Panopto's implementaion proccess).

From this thread I understand that it's not prioretised, but Is it possible to get any estimation from the core teams regarding the release date of this fix?

Best & thanks,
Idan

BV52's picture

Hi Idan,

I'll check with the H5P core team, I'll get back to you within the week.

-BV

BV52's picture

Hi Idan,

I'm apologize there are no scheduled release date yet but I was asked to create a ticket so that it can be prioritized.

-BV

Thanks BV, for the update and for creating the ticket.
How long do you estimate (from your experience) we need to wait until the ticket is prioritized?
* Your answer will help me in my decision rearding Panopto's migration that we've put on hold.

 

BV52's picture

Hi Idan,

Not sure when but what I'm sure is it won't be this month or the next, 2nd quarter might be a reach so the earliest I would say is 3rd quarter of this year. The project that is on the highest priority right now is the OER Hub which is about to be released to a set of users as a final testing phase then if all goes well (fingers crossed) it will be release for everyone. The plan after this is to start reviewing, testing and releasing PR/commits and I'll make sure to follow up on this specific case.

-BV

Thanks BV.
Your answer helped me a lot in understanding the situation.
good luck with OER hub project, and we'll be in touch on the 3rd quarter :)

Hi BV and team,

A few months have passed and we are nearing Q3. Kindly asking for an update on the matter.

Thank you,

Uriya

BV52's picture

Hi Uriya,

I'm sorry no updates yet. 

-BV